Wednesday, September 14, 2005
"LET US PRAY FOR MORE EFFECTIVE PRAYER"
Once again, that great patriot, Gen. J. C. Christian comes up with a fresh perspective. Which is why JESUS' GENERAL remains one of the funniest blogs in the sphere!
Let us pray for effective prayers
Dear Mr. Williams,
It seems like every time I fire up the old computer, I'm bombarded by emails about cheap Viagra, Russians who want to do things with my little soldier , and requests to pray for someone or something. Although I try to avoid responding to the first two, I spend many hours every day fulfilling the prayer requests.
I can't count the number of times I've responded to Pat Robertson's pleas by asking our Lord to smite various activist judges and foreign leaders, and I've answered The Presidential Prayer Team's call to bless the Our Leader so many times that my knees are now thick with calluses--people are beginning to mistake me for the White House harlot Jeff Gannon.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be working. The activist judges and foreign leaders continue to walk around committing acts of activism and foreignness without suffering even a minor scratch. And let's not even talk about Our Leader's lack of blessings.
I've tried everything I can think of to make the prayers more effective. I've fasted; I've whipped myself with everything from a belt to a strand of barbed wire; and I've followed your instructions and prayed "that God would use Pray4theUSA.com to motivate people throughout America to sincerely pray for our nation," in the belief that sheer numbers might get God off the dime. None of it has worked.
I'm wondering if perhaps there might be too much praying going on. Perhaps the Lord is overwhelmed by it all and is suffering some kind of information-overload-induced paralysis, or worse yet, answering prayers so fast, he's getting them wrong--that would explain Rehnquist and Our Leader's domestic and foreign policies.
Maybe we should consider combining all the prayers together so that we no longer overwhelm Him. I think it would look something like this:
Heavenly Father, please use Pray4theUSA.com to motivate people throughout America to rise up in an angry mob and smite activist judges and foreign leaders and beat the shit out of whoever is advising Our Leader.
Yeah, that would cover just about everything, What do you think?
Gen, JC Christian, patriot
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Jesus' General does not make fun of Jesus or God. It pokes fun at a very specific group of people that both UL and I are very familiar with. Those folks my college mates and I used to refer to as the "fightin fundies", because they"ld rather fight than change an opinion for something as trivial as fact. These are people that the UL and I know very well, he as a former fundamentalist pastor turned Catholic philosopher, me as someone who spent the first 34 years of his life as an Evangelical.
Jesus' General makes fun of a very particular (and richly deserving) group. Those sanctimonious, arrogant folks who believe that God has a wonderful plan for your life, but didn't bother to share it with you, but somehow saw fit to share it with them instead. Folks like the radio talk show host I heard yesterday saying that God destroyed New Orleans because it was a den of iniquity, and if the rest of the country didn't shape up, we'd all be next.
If you've ever been to Scandinavia or the Netherlands, you know that New Orleans ranks pretty far down the list as dens of iniquity go. I think Rotterdam or Copenhagen would be much higher up the Godly demolition list if iniquity was the issue.
These people believe they have a special "in" with God, so they can dictate to you how to live, and how to approach God, as if you and God aren't capable of working out your own relationship.
So, to make a long story short. you are not doing anything wrong or blasphemous laughing at JG. The real blasphemy is the arrogance of those who believe that they know more about how you should relate to God than you do.
I agree. However, since when does two wrongs make a right? (forgive the cliche but I find it appropriate).
So you claim the 'fightin' fundies' are laughing at you because they are on the fast trck with God and you're not and you laugh at them because they are so "easy to make fun of and deserve it".
Somewhere in the middle are the rest of us who think both sides are pretty sad and nothing about that is funny.
(I'm not saying you're sad GWB. I think you are someone I would love to sit down with and eat a pulled pork sandiwhich and drink a beer. I'm just pointing out that both sides sound arrogant to me.)
They are also folks who take themselves WAY to serious. It's good to be able to laugh at yourself occasionally. Keeps people laughing with you rather than at you.
And anytime you wanna sit down for a pulled pork (or brisket, not choosey), a Molson's and some philosphic chat... I'm game!
Of course that only works if the bully isn't kicking your ass.
If he's hurting you--I have a different recipe.
As far as I can tell, these people (most of them) are just bags of hot air.
There is a part of me that agrees with you. But here is the thing. for the most part these people attract the like minded, but they also attract what we'll the ptential immigrants. There are always a certain number of people standing on the border. trying to decide whether to cross or not. Some are on the outside looking in, some on the inside looking out, but either way, just on the verge of crossing.
These are the people for whom it is important that hypocracy be exposed and and certain ideologies exposed as the empty vessels they really are!
And, by the way, these people are nothing if not bullies. Remind me to blog about The Adventures of C. Everett Koop, Surgeon General sometime!
Now I totally agree with that. My problem is this: You are right. There are people sitting the fence, watching all of this going on. They see a site like the one you quoted in your post, about praying, and maybe they get the idea that Christianity and a belief in Christ is a big, fat joke.
Maybe that's all they get out of it, nevermind the fact that underneath the sarcasm and tongue-in-cheek stuff is the real issue of exposing people for what they really are.
See my point?
It's just going about it in the wrong way--in my opinion. There are plenty of cool, Christian talk radio personalities out there that single out the faulty, bogus Christians without painting Christianity in a bad light.
Thsoe of us who satarize the more obvious of it's excesses to both non believers and believers a service. Satire is the best way of making people see their flaws. You are right, THE SIMPSONS rocks!
I've been on the "Jesus General's" site and was very disturbed at its treatment of Christians. I know what the author of the site is trying to do at poking fun at the stupidity. I am troubled that it does cross the line.
As to dbackdad and your comments to me about my vice of arrogance...I'm not surprised if people see vice in me. As a matter of fact, I'm more surprised when people see virtue in me, knowing what I do about myself; I see the junk rolling around inside of me. Reminds me of one of my good ol' trucks I used to drive...McDonald coffee cups, coke cans, sandwich wrappers, old french fries and such bouncing around as I drove to different job sites. However, I'd like to know how you define "arrogance." If you refer to my blogsite as an example, what specifically do you mean? I have often identified fallacies and wrong thinking that fill our media and culture. If it's my declarations that smack of arrogance, then watch out! You have just made a declarative sentence yourself by identifying my arrogance; you could be condemning your own actions, based on your definition. So help me here...I'm sure we will both benefit, which, by the way, is my purpose for us.
Not to mention the story of your truck tells me we are very much alike in a lot of ways!
I have always been a very big believer in the power of satire. However, satire does have it's limits. Satire is only useful if it's consumers are intelligent enough to understand it's message. We are now on the second generation of students who are being taught great memorization skills, but not taught or encouraged to think critically. This means a) satire becomes effective to an increasingly narrow spectrum of people, or b) the message has to be dumbed down.
This is the true brilliance of THE SIMPSONS, which manages to remain relevant and amazingly popular after 12 years on the air. Great satire presented in a manner that virtually everyone "gets". It's like Boss Tweed once said of Thomas Nast, "these immigrants may not be able to read, but everbody understands those damned cartoons!"
I'll be sure to be clear with my statements so as to not be seen as someone who dismisses people along with their beliefs, etc.
As to my vehicles...I'm a firm believer that they should make an auto air=freshener that smells like spilled coffee!!! MMMM good! Mix that with a little cedar and you got something! Covers up the smell of regurgitated vanilla ice cream. Don't ask...it involves my dog!
I think arrogance is the wrong word. You and I both tend to be smuggly dismissive, confident that only our logic is concievably correct. Even worse, I REALLY have problems suffering fools lightly, as evidenced by my dealings with the Logic Monkey!
But however much I try to change, in the end, Popeye was right "Aye'm what Aye'm and thats all what Aye'm" (toot toot)
Which is why, when possible, one should always follow the numbers!
As to starting with different premises, I agree. The question that is beyond logic is, "What is truth?" The answer to that question reveals our philosophical presuppositions.
Don't dismiss geometry as a logic tool. I GET geometry and proofs and have found it invaluable in life! There's beauty in the simplicity of if/then statements.
OH NO, I've outed myself as a math nerd!
By no means do I intend to impugn your integrity UL. I think you may have read a little more into my comment than I intended. My arrogance comment was narrowly applied to your statement about the Buddy Christ blog being a "vicious blogsite". First of all, like GWB, I believe it to be satire and not nearly as malicious as you believe. Second of all, the arrogance definition I'm applying to your statement is of highhandedness ... moral superiority, if you will. It just sounded a little bit too much like you were scolding dull children (of which we all probably were ... he-he)
I think what happens is when we share opinions, we want to keep them in the opinion catagory. We don't want to be corrected or shown that we are wrong. The area of right and wrong is in the area of truth, and we all know what a hot-button issue THAT is!
What gets dicey, though, is when declarative statements that are made that are assumed to be true, even the angular ones on the Jesus General site. Now it's no longer opinion time, it's reality time, which is what truth deals with, our apprehension of what is real. So, me, the UL chimes in with his ever so lofty thoughts and yeeha we have ourselves a minor tiff!
I do understand what you are saying about my comments sounding highminded. I don't think that they are, but that's your perception. Too often, when people see that they're being corrected, take it personally and attack. I don't know if there's any way around this, unless we all abandon the arena of truth and keep opining.